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1. Raymond Camden 3 min later

   @zachleat @11ty it will have more cowbell, right?

   1. Zach Leatherman 5 min later

      @raymondcamden @11ty at least 1 more cowbells

2. Jason Garber 12 min later

   @zachleat @11ty rebranded as 4ty right

   1. Zach Leatherman 16 min later

      @jgarber @11ty 4d chess edition

3. Patrick Grey 15 min later

   @zachleat @11ty But it already does all we need. I presume it's leaving this planet (with the dolphins), to seek greater adventures 😭

   1. Zach Leatherman 16 min later

      @patrick @11ty thanks for all the fish!!

4. Zach Leatherman 17 min later

   we usually swim in alpha/canary releases for awhile, so don’t get too upgrade-happy here 😅

   1. Jason Garber 44 min later

      @zachleat uh oh did i just install a bootleg v4

      bought it out the back of some dude’s pickup

      1. Zach Leatherman 47 min later

         @jgarber how’s the npm audit lookin’

         1. Jason Garber 1 hr later

            @zachleat how many cryptominers should there be

5. evie 45 min later

   @zachleat @11ty genuinely something i would really like out of a future 11ty release is a clearer data flow. something i particularly like about lume is that it’s a lot more clear how the data moves around the site. it feels like a lot less magic than 11ty

   1. Zach Leatherman 47 min later

      @ewie @11ty say more! I have some plans to do some Data Cascade source mapping things

      1. evie 1 hr later

         @zachleat @11ty i really don’t know how to describe as anything other than “less magic”. sorry. when i first started using eleventy i couldn’t figure out how sometimes making changes to the basic blog template would result in unsuccessful builds while other times it would work fine. i could only conclude that my mental model of eleventy was wrong and parts that i thought i could control were actually part of the “magic” and would break. this is partially a skill issue on some level. lots of people are able to use 11ty and change basic templates a bunch to suit their needs without running into the feeling i had that my site was somehow fragile and i couldn’t figure out how to implement stuff i wanted to implement without running up against the magic, but it was still something that pushed me away.

         something that i really liked about switching to lume is how much more the model felt like regular js, where you could see more of the data moving around. as someone who likes a static site to feel like a series of tubes (push data in, change it, push it out), it was a lot easier to model in my head, and as a result i’ve basically never had a situation where the site didn’t build and i couldn’t figure out why.

6. Zach Leatherman 1 hr later

   For extra curious folks, the big ol’ PR to kick this off merged yesterday: https://github.com/11ty/eleventy/pull/3858

   1. Zach Leatherman 1 hr later

      Roadmap and ongoing work in the milestone here: https://github.com/11ty/eleventy/milestone/46

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   2. Colin 3 hr later

      @zachleat LGTM

7. Bob Monsour 1 hr later

   @zachleat @11ty I’d better “Bundle” up!

8. Nic 8 hr later

   @zachleat @11ty
   11ty is the only tool I actually get excited about new versions for because I know there won't be a terrible upgrade path 💛

9. Chris Ferdinandi 12 hr later

   @zachleat @11ty 🎉🎉🎉🎉

   1. Jonathan Schofield 12 hr later

      @cferdinandi one too few emojis ;)

      @zachleat @11ty

      1. Chris Ferdinandi 12 hr later

         @urlyman @zachleat @11ty fixed!

         1. Jonathan Schofield 12 hr later

            @cferdinandi 😊@zachleat @11ty

10. Mokorana 14 hr later

    @zachleat @11ty very exciting

11. Jay Hannah 18 hr later

    @zachleat @11ty lol I somehow bricked my dad’s blog 2 -> 3 (on Netlify). Hopefully I get it right next time.

    1. Build Awesome (11ty) 2 days later

       @deafferret @zachleat did you figure out what went wrong? did you use the upgrade helper? https://www.11ty.dev/docs/plugins/upgrade-help/

       1. Jay Hannah 2 days later

          @11ty no, cause I'm an idiot. I almost got it working again last night, entirely my fault.

          1. Build Awesome (11ty) 3 days later

             @deafferret I know with 100% certainty that you’re not an idiot, jay

             1. Jay Hannah 3 days later

                @11ty oh no! I’m contagious! lol ❤️