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1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 28 min later

   does anyone else feel like feature testing as a front-end practice went out of style? (wrongly so — it’s still super valuable!)

   1. Kirch Mastodon 39 min later

      @zachleat feels more like management knows less about The Web, in general, let alone what's on their own website, than ever before...

   2. haliphax 👾 Mastodon 46 min later

      @zachleat Which is a real shame, because in my long term experience developing for the web, it's only gotten easier. Modern tooling (e.g. vue test utils, happydom) has grown to be pretty capable, and integration (e.g. cypress, playwright) is better than ever.

   3. ahoyboyhoy Mastodon 1 hr later

      @zachleat by feature testing, do you mean "does this environment support feature x?", as in early days of HTML5 where SVG as image src, media tags, and a great many other features were not reliably available in a browser (and would require polyfill)?

      1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 2 hr later

         @ahoyboyhoy yeah, writing JavaScript to test for features, a la Modernizr: https://modernizr.com/

   4. westbrook Mastodon 3 hr later

      @zachleat The jump to APIs not being prepared for this sort of testing seemed to go by the wayside with the `type="module"`/`no-module` toggle. There was a glimmer of a hope we'd be given some form of successor to this...but, no.

      1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 5 hr later

         @westbrook https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLScriptElement/supports_static#speculationrules seems like at least someone is thinking about it!

         1. westbrook Mastodon 5 hr later

            @zachleat So close to being able to say `HTMLScriptElement.supports('css import attributes')`... 🥺

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3. Hugo Nogueira Bluesky 4 hr later

   BTW, I’ve been following Zach’s work for years and these are the harshest words I ever seen from Zach 😬

   1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 4 hr later

      oh no should I dial it back 😅