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1. Zach Leatherman moments later

   via @andybaio https://bsky.app/profile/andy.baio.net/post/3l4ud6hswgk22

   1. cthos 🐱 26 min later

      @zachleat yikes

2. Christopher Kirk-Nielsen 3 min later

   @zachleat I just read about this! I mean the guy has his name in the company's name, so you know there's some serious ego there, but holy pepperoni, that's just… something else. 👀

3. ohmrun 5 min later

   @zachleat More to the point, what sort of type setting is this?

   1. Zach Leatherman 6 min later

      @ohmrun lawyers get paid for each typeface they can fit into their letterhead

4. Rhys Jones 9 min later

   @zachleat Holy smokes! 😳 Looks like Automatic is trying to shake down WP Engine for some moola 💰

   1. Zach Leatherman 39 min later

      @dvsk whew—it does look like that! 😅

5. McNeely 5 hr later

   @zachleat well well well looks like this is gonna keep escalating...

   @ernie

   1. Ernie Smith 5 hr later

      @McNeely @zachleat I like how I’m the CMS drama guy now lol

      1. Zach Leatherman 18 hr later

         @ernie @McNeely it has been decided 😅

         1. Ernie Smith 18 hr later

            @zachleat @McNeely On the plus side I see nothing but chill vibes coming from the Eleventy camp. Cheers. :)

            1. Zach Leatherman 18 hr later

               @ernie @McNeely

               1. McNeely 18 hr later

                  @zachleat @ernie live shot of the 11ty community

6. Zach Leatherman 18 hr later

   It’s giving late-stage silicon valley when the cease and desists are flying back and forth

   PDF Link: https://automattic.com/2024/wp-engine-cease-and-desist.pdf

   1. Joshua Iz 19 hr later

      @zachleat

      This one reads particularly petty and lacking substance. Oof.

      1. Zach Leatherman 19 hr later

         @joshuaiz yeahhhhhhh—big oof, indeed.

   2. Gavin Anderegg 19 hr later

      @zachleat I guess all hosting companies should remove any mention of WordPress from their sites? I think Matt has maybe lost the plot here.

      1. Zach Leatherman 19 hr later

         @gavinanderegg it’s okay to selectively (and on a 14-year delay) enforce a trademark against only one of your competitors, right?

         …right?

   3. Zach Leatherman 1 day later

      Shockwaves are hitting developers now as Matt appears to have disabled WP Engine’s access to the WordPress plugin repository https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/1fpeqn2/plugin_repository_inaccessible_to_wp_engine/

      (via @collinsworth)

      1. cthos 🐱 1 day later

         @zachleat This is all very cool and normal.

         1. Zach Leatherman 1 day later

            @cthos super good open ecosystem vibes all around

      2. Simon Jones 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth 🤯

         We are literally about to launch a client site in 2 days time on WP Engine (though we do manage plugins ourselves in version control)

         1. Simon Jones 2 days later

            @zachleat @collinsworth The website launch on WP Engine went fine, though I did have to inform our client of this legal wrangling nonsense 😀

            1. Zach Leatherman 2 days later

               @simonrjones @collinsworth whew, that must be a relief!

      3. Eric A. Meyer 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth 🤦

      4. jake lazaroff 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth yikes — if i were using wordpress i would be absolutely scrambling to migrate away right now.

      5. Rich Holman 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth 👀

      6. Rich Holman 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth kinda glad I just finished my WP CLI >> 11ty 3.0 beta pipeline.

         1. Zach Leatherman 1 day later

            @dogwonder @collinsworth nice! I heard 11ty was good

            1. Josh Collinsworth 1 day later

               @zachleat @dogwonder Hmmm maybe but I don't really trust open-source software unless there's an unhinged dictator or an evil corporation behind it. (Ideally both.)

               1. Zach Leatherman 1 day later

                  @collinsworth @dogwonder makes sense—apropos of nothing what do you know about Rails

                  1. Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊) 1 day later

                     @zachleat @collinsworth @dogwonder Well at least Rails has a Foundation now which can transparently manage any trademark dispu—

                     Oh.

                     1. Zach Leatherman 1 day later

                        @jaredwhite @collinsworth @dogwonder no one has an exclusive license on screaming though (IANAL)

         2. Chris Ferdinandi 1 day later

            @dogwonder @zachleat @collinsworth smart, move! Leaving WordPress for a static site generator is one of the best moves I ever made.

      7. Sandrine 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth
         The whole debacle is giving Main Character energy.

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      9. Lea de Groot TZ+10 1 day later

         @zachleat @collinsworth this is why you never give senior staff write priv on the repo ;)

      10. Mario 1 day later

          @zachleat @collinsworth It doesn't only appear like that, Matt posted it in the open: https://wordpress.org/news/2024/09/wp-engine-banned/

          "WP Engine no longer has free access to WordPress.org’s resources."

          IMO this is not reducing trust in WPEngine but WordPress as a whole and I can't imagine what this mess will lead to...

          1. Zach Leatherman 1 day later

             @mariohamann @collinsworth wooooof