19 replies

1. Thomas Beduneau 2 min later

   @zachleat that’s because their HTML is created with JavaScript. They don’t really write HTML anyway

   1. Zach Leatherman 3 min later

      @enwin 😅

   2. maxfenton 4 hr later

      @enwin @zachleat It’s in Twig, actually. And the AlpineJS is in the HTML, too.

2. benschwarz 3 min later

   @zachleat real 10x developers put both HTML & JavaScript in CSS

   1. Zach Leatherman 7 min later

      @benschwarz :before and :after are the only real `content` creators

      1. kaiserkiwi 6 hr later

         @zachleat @benschwarz it's about time we get multiple ::before and ::after so we can finally create websites without anything but the html element!

         html::before {}
         html::before::before {}
         html::before::before::before {}

         This will be our day of revenge!

3. Ethan Marcotte 9 min later

   @zachleat day ain’t over yet

   1. Zach Leatherman 11 min later

      @beep there is at least 3 more <div> of <span> left!

4. Mike Aparicio 41 min later

   @zachleat please don’t

   1. Zach Leatherman 1 hr later

      @peruvianidol same, but also surprised

5. Moritz G. 1 hr later

   @zachleat I don’t mean to defend tailwind, but not having to switch context and coding just editing one file feels nice. That feeling came from using Bootstrap helper classes (at least for me).

   1. Chris Coleman 2 hr later

      @MoritzGiessmann @zachleat Having some utility classes can be great. Having only utility classes is… not my favorite.

      1. Zach Leatherman 15 hr later

         @Chris @MoritzGiessmann well said!

   2. nrk 4 hr later

      @MoritzGiessmann @zachleat utilities for highly repetitive compound classes makes sense. But polluting markup with atomic utilities (that could also be achieved with variables) is not my favorite thing.
      Also writing CSS without having to change file can also be achieved with <style> right?

   3. Zach Leatherman 15 hr later

      @MoritzGiessmann for me, single file components are a much better abstraction that stays closer to the platform

6. nrk 4 hr later

   @zachleat because their html is also created by Javascript

7. d3v1an7 5 hr later

   @zachleat am i allowed to offset my love of utility classes with my simultaneous love of static sites and minimal client js?

   1. Zach Leatherman 15 hr later

      @d3v1an7 we can all have a few utility classes, as a treat!

8. Chris Ferdinandi 2 days later

   @zachleat the HTML is rendered with JS, so tomato/tomato