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1. Jon 27 min later

   @zachleat it's hard to see what argument is the best to convince enterprise away from Next.js :/

   1. Zach Leatherman 29 min later

      @scrwd enterprises are often the slowest movers in the space, the ever given still obstructing the suez canal 😅

   2. Zach Leatherman 2 hr later

      @scrwd one more thought here: the best evidence is *Gatsby* and the very risky, tenuous relationship that frameworks have with VC investment. Enterprises hate risk—and not even Next’s success can survive the end of the runway

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3. nate 2 hr later

   @zachleat The fact that the original report didn't even include a chart like this is wild. Year-to-year growth is a very different metric than overall usage/satisfaction. Younger projects will inherently see more initial growth. A more objective framing would have contextualized the original chart against the absolute numbers.

   I'm sorry folks are drawing the wrong conclusions about Eleventy from the report. This isn't a competition—framework monoculture is *always* bad for the web.

   1. Zach Leatherman 2 hr later

      @nmoo Page 10 (of 13) of the primary report had the original chart (alone). The second chart showing absolute numbers for sentiment was buried in the appendices on Page 32 (of 39).

      (And I *really* appreciate you for saying this)

      1. nate 3 hr later

         @zachleat Ah yes, internet users famously love to check page 32 of the appendices before drawing conclusions!

         Of course man. Not a fight I'm interested in fighting and not a narrative I feel the need to participate in ✊

4. Amelia Bellamy-Royds 12 hr later

   @zachleat Oh yeah, that's a very different story. Showing only annual % change in a popularity contest is very unusual choice indeed.

   If they wanted to show change while also respecting actual values, each of those bubbles in your chart could have a tail extending from last year's position.