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1. Simon Green 4 min later

   @zachleat maybe it’s worth adding your thoughts in the GitHub comments? I’d be interested in your thoughts in blog form as well though

2. fahru 5 min later

   @zachleat wow, that was a long discussion, I seem to be missing out.

   Can I assume the react team won't merge this because that specific comment seems to be wanting to keep CRA afloat?

   1. Zach Leatherman 8 min later

      @fahru I was only referencing the deep link comment from Dan Abramov, for the record.

3. Stu Robson 8 min later

   @zachleat “The Rise of The React Frameworks” is a Terminator/Meta fanfic title.

4. Zach Leatherman 9 min later

   (it has come to my attention that Mastodon web interface removes # anchors from the URL in the preview block 😭 so make sure you click the text link)

   1. Nicolas Hoizey 13 min later

      @zachleat this is where I am after a click on the preview

      1. Nicolas Hoizey 14 min later

         @zachleat (with @ivory on iOS)

         1. Khalid ⚡ 16 min later

            @nhoizey @zachleat @ivory the link worked fine for me. Took me to the same comment.

      2. Zach Leatherman 15 min later

         @nhoizey yeah it’s probably mastodon client-dependent

   2. Timmy Willison 15 min later

      @zachleat As others are pointing out, it depends on the app.

      1. Zach Leatherman 17 min later

         @timmywil yeah, that makes sense. I am using the official mastodon web interface.

         1. Timmy Willison 1 hr later

            @zachleat Tested it on elk. It's even worse. It cuts off before the `.org` part so the link is a 404.

            1. Zach Leatherman 1 hr later

               @timmywil ooh you’re right! cc @elk

               1. Elk 4 hr later

                  @zachleat @timmywil Thanks for the heads up!
                  We just merged a fix by @skryukov. It should be good in canary (main.elk.zone) and will be released in v0.7 soon.
                  https://github.com/elk-zone/elk/pull/1563

                  1. Zach Leatherman 4 hr later

                     @elk @timmywil @skryukov best in the biz—thank you!

                  2. Timmy Willison 7 hr later

                     @elk @zachleat @skryukov What a turnaround!

   3. Andrew 1 hr later

      @zachleat Tracked at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19538

      1. Zach Leatherman 1 hr later

         @andrew subscribed—thank you!

5. Thomas Michael Semmler 14 min later

   @zachleat big Ooof.

6. Dave 🧱 21 min later

   @zachleat it's 3pm here and I'm trying to read the comment but I'm more like create-react-nap

7. Keith J Grant 26 min later

   @zachleat I used to point and laugh at the chaos my back end teams took to get a Java code base configured and running.

   Then I watched us repeat the exact same thing for the front end, each step along the way perfectly reasonable and addressing a very real problem, but the end result still turning into a complete mess.

   1. Zach Leatherman 43 min later

      @keithjgrant it’s not uncommon to see overengineered solutions in our profession—but I do find it very odd that they achieve this level of ubiquity/success/investment!

8. Hm… I’m skeptical 27 min later

   @zachleat Indeed. Good openness.

   "You can use React to build a single button, or you can use it to build an entire app."

   You also, like, should NOT use it to build a single button, but that kind of position seems to be always missing from these retrospectives. There's seems to be the underlying "people are losing interest, so let's decide on the end-state of this so we can move to the next thing."

9. Dave Copeland 1 hr later

   @zachleat They are saying CRA is dead? That didn't last long. I have no love for it, but the toolchain churn is just mind-boggling

10. Thomas Randolph 2 hr later

    @zachleat

    1. Zach Leatherman 2 hr later

       @rockerest haha someone else sent me that same exact meme 😅