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1. Brian LeRoux 💚 2 min later

   @zachleat hells ya. testing html can be a bit weird! how are you doing it these days? we're basically comparing strings using parse5 and its fiiiine but feels like a thing that could be much better

   1. Zach Leatherman 5 min later

      @brianleroux same! still rocking ava js too

   2. Christian Bromann ✔️ 9 hr later

      @brianleroux @zachleat WebdriverIO will ship with a browser runner in the upcoming major release that makes it finally very easy to render and test components in a real browser using standardized user interactions through the WebDriver protocol. All powered by Vite. Some examples can be found here: https://github.com/webdriverio/component-testing-examples

      1. Brian LeRoux 💚 9 hr later

         @bromann @zachleat sounds interesting. Can I use this if I don't need or use Vite? I write custom elements and upgrade them w just normal javascript. Weird-- I know.

         1. Christian Bromann ✔️ 9 hr later

            @brianleroux @zachleat sure, it comes with a basic Vite setup that allows you to write TypeScript and import dependencies. As a User you don’t even see that it is Vite under the hood unless you like to customize the dev server. What you do in your tests is totally up to you!

            1. Brian LeRoux 💚 9 hr later

               @bromann @zachleat what about javascript tho seriously we don't transpile it's just too many tradeoffs for basic stuff

               1. Christian Bromann ✔️ 9 hr later

                  @brianleroux @zachleat yeah that will totally work, it will import any plain module into the browser for you to use

               2. Christian Bromann ✔️ 9 hr later

                  @brianleroux let me actually add an example using Enhance 😉

                  1. Brian LeRoux 💚 9 hr later

                     @bromann now we're talking! 🙏 Seriously tho just a blank test.html page is cool too.

                     1. Christian Bromann ✔️ 10 hr later

                        @brianleroux here you go: https://github.com/webdriverio/component-testing-examples/blob/main/enhance/tests/specs/example.test.js .. a simple example but should demonstrate how it could look like. This targets more the component testing usecase which is why I had to strip out the HTML and Body tag. Compared to the proposed solution in the Enhance docs this uses the actual browser and could run anywhere where the web is supported, even mobile 😉

2. Jordan 2 min later

   @zachleat are you testing us right now?

   1. Zach Leatherman 5 min later

      @jhofker the great litmus test of life

3. Stuart Langridge 10 min later

   @zachleat ah but have you TESTED that opinion

   tap.pass('yes testing is good')

   1. Zach Leatherman 19 min later

      @sil I’ll be in touch for maintenance on that one

4. Skid Vis 12 min later

   @zachleat like, testing in production?

   1. Zach Leatherman 17 min later

      @skidvis SHIP IT

5. Rik Schennink 15 min later

   @zachleat this very much feels like a test

   1. Zach Leatherman 17 min later

      @rikschennink you passed

      1. Rik Schennink 32 min later

         @zachleat I'm so relieved

6. nicole 22 min later

   @zachleat am i being tested???

   1. nicole 22 min later

      @zachleat ig i did get tested for autism :akko_shrug:

7. Ori Livni 24 min later

   @zachleat Testing takes jobs from experts that fix bug by detecting them by testing

8. Escarpment 35 min later

   @zachleat Good testing is good. Bad testing is really bad (I changed the text of a button, now I have 500 test failures that will take me significantly longer to fix than fixing the button).

9. Ari Koponen 46 min later

   @zachleat

   The more you do it the better it gets!

10. Mark Codes the Web 59 min later

    @zachleat we’re not supposed to just commit to production and wait for angry emails?

11. Ludwig Vielfrass 2 hr later

    @zachleat Remember the maxim: "Everyone has a testing environment. If you're very lucky it's separate from your production environment!"

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14. Paul 9 hr later

    @zachleat When I'm on the job market I test potential employers by asking them how they feel about their automated testing regime. Correct answer: they're not satisfied with it.

15. Diego Ciangottini 10 hr later

    @zachleat .... Until it's not :)