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1. Kilian Valkhof 4 min later

   😬

   1. Zach Leatherman 34 min later

      Why are you grimacing? 🤔

      1. Kilian Valkhof 38 min later

         I make one of those boxes

         1. Zach Leatherman 42 min later

            When I think of developer tools, I think of things that attempt to eat the world via abstraction: Tailwind was one of those vs CSS. JSX was another vs JS. Not a complementary tool to existing workflows, you have to buy-in wholesale. I wouldn’t judge Polypane in the same light, fwiw!

            1. Kilian Valkhof 52 min later

               Right! I usually think of developer tools as anything external that you use to develop: the hammer rather than the nails and timber.

               1. Zach Leatherman 59 min later

                  Ah, I see. I think you’re probably right that most folks categorize them similarly. Maybe I should have said frameworks and libraries 🤔

                  1. Sara Joy ☠️ 1 hr later

                     @kilianvalkhof.com makes not a hammer but a whole workshop and lab that helps us make and test the best things we can with our own hands.

                     Frameworks tell us we don't need the workshop and lab, just use their building blocks. Just a shame the blocks never *quite* fit together like we want them to...

                     1. Sara Joy ☠️ 1 hr later

                        Or the bricks totally go together but they're so bloody HEAVY and why are they all bejazzled?

                        1. Sara Joy ☠️ 1 hr later

                           Imma start a new swear, something too heavy on the JS ist beJSen, pronounced like beschissen, German for shitty

                           1. Mastro.{js,ts} 14 hr later

                              It’s a bit sad that framework has become such a dirty word. Every static site generator (or even every router) is a framework, right? Or you wouldn’t call them that?

                     2. Kilian Valkhof 1 hr later

                        Comes with a specialty wood shaver that can only shave with the grain of the web.

         2. Christian Alder 2 hr later

            Kilian, you make the box on the right. Your tool is a perfect "how it should be" 💜 I've never once felt trapped by it.

   2. Andreas Møller 15 hr later

      👀