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1. Alesandro Ortiz 🇵🇷🏳️‍🌈 Mastodon 6 min later

   @zachleat (Steve Ballmer voice) dependencies, dependencies, dependencies!

   1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 47 min later

      @AlesandroOrtiz here at peloton engineering we only allow cyclical dependencies

2. Ian Frost Bluesky 8 min later

   500 variants of cards, please

   1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 13 min later

      one for each button!

3. Timothy Wolodzko Mastodon 13 min later

   @zachleat
   What we want?
   \o/
   Complexity!
   \o/\o/\o/
   Where we want it?
   \o/
   Everywhere!
   \o/\o/\o/

   1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 46 min later

      @tymwol ArmsRaisedAsciiCharacterFactory

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5. Rik Schennink Bluesky 26 min later

   how about another abstraction ✨🤗✨

   1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 42 min later

      just one more

      one more will fix everything

6. Kilian Valkhof Bluesky 29 min later

   Layers. Like an ogre.

   1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 44 min later

      bsky.app/profile/zach...

   2. Stuart Robson Bluesky 55 min later

      Netscape were onto something.

7. Jason Garber Mastodon 42 min later

   @zachleat look buddy your product manager’s promotion isn’t gonna earn itself

   1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 46 min later

      @jgarber hop in losers we’re getting paid per LoC!!!

      1. psarant Mastodon 51 min later

         @zachleat @jgarber Need to pay per line of diff. Then you can get paid for removing code, too.

         1. Zach Leatherman Mastodon 1 hr later

            @psarant @jgarber I like this, now I get paid twice

            1. psarant Mastodon 4 hr later

               @zachleat @jgarber At least!

8. Stephen Hay Bluesky 58 min later

   Multi-select with built-in search and filters please Zach

   1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 hr later

      first of all, hi

      1. Stephen Hay Bluesky 2 hr later

         Hi there.

         When will the multi-select be done don't change the subject

         1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 2 hr later

            if we have wiggle room on feature scope I can have an MVP done by COB using <select multiple>

            1. Stephen Hay Bluesky 3 hr later

               there are dependencies I'm afraid

               1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 3 hr later

                  ok then it will take 18 months

                  1. Stephen Hay Bluesky 3 hr later

                     oh that's pretty quick

9. James Bluesky 2 hr later

   it's ok, we're also spinning up 3 new systems in a trench coat to manage the complexity

   1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 3 hr later

      can we hire a few middle (complexity) managers

      1. James Bluesky 3 hr later

         as team lead, i play a pivotal role in protecting my devs from superman's xray vision

         1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 3 hr later

            truly the team Pb

10. Matthias Ott Bluesky 3 hr later

    KICS!

    1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 4 hr later

       complexity is next to godliness

       1. Matthias Ott Bluesky 5 hr later

          “Good design is as complex as possible.”
          — Dieter Rams

          1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 5 hr later

             “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to remove, but when there is nothing left to add.”
             — Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

             1. Matthias Ott Bluesky 14 hr later

                “The complexities are not the complexities. They make the design.”
                — Charles Eames

                1. Manuel Matuzović Bluesky 14 hr later

                   “In terms of priority, complexity comes first. You come next. The audience comes last.”
                   — Rick Rubin

                   1. Eric Portis Bluesky 1 day later

                      "Everything should be made as complex as possible, and then a little complexerer." — Albert Einstein

                      1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 day later

                         genuine lol at complexerer 🏅

                         1. Matthias Ott Bluesky 1 day later

                            Wasn’t Einstein also the guy who(se wife) invented the general theory of complexity?

                            1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 day later

                               well I do know that it’s not called a God Simplex

                      2. Erik Vorhes Bluesky 1 day later

                         “We need much more than we think we need.” — Maya Angelou

                2. Ariel Salminen Bluesky 14 hr later

                   “Complexity is about subtracting the obvious and adding the meaningful.”
                   ― John Maeda

                   1. Matthias Ott Bluesky 14 hr later

                      “The complexity is the message.”
                      — Marshall McLuhan

                      1. Ariel Salminen Bluesky 14 hr later

                         “The ability to complexify means to incorporate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak.”
                         — Hans Hofmann

                   2. Matthias Ott Bluesky 15 hr later

                      I really loved John’s book “The Laws of Complexity”, by the way. 👏

                      1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 day later

                         “I didn’t have time to write you a long letter, so I wrote you a short one.” — Mark Twain

          2. Joshua Iz Bluesky 1 day later

             KICS: KEEP IT COMPLEX, STUPID!

11. Garth Braithwaite Mastodon 5 hr later

    @zachleat

12. Bsmth, the bsmth guy Bluesky 14 hr later

    Have we considered rolling our own crypto for this?

13. ⭑ salma Bluesky 15 hr later

    complex code is best code

    1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 day later

       more is more, as I always say

14. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 day later

    Some really insightful quotes in this thread: bsky.app/profile/matt...

15. Andreas Møller Bluesky 1 day later

    I was going to keep it simple, but I’m not stupid! So…

    1. Zach Leatherman Bluesky 1 day later

       *exactly*

       this is why I use LLMs because I am not nuts!!

       1. Andreas Møller Bluesky 1 day later

          Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.

          And perfection is the enemy of good.

          So if soy want to make good software: ADD NORE FEATURES!

          It’s logic!

       2. Andreas Møller Bluesky 1 day later

          Smart!

16. Florian Geierstanger Bluesky 1 day later

    Running various versions of the thing at once seems like a easy win